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Breast rubs anyone?

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Stephen McDaniel

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I heard this type of therapy might be good for accomodation problems. I'm not sure if it would be more benefical for the doc or the patient though.:rolleyes:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21325760/wid/11915773?GT1=10514

WOODLAND, Calif. - A dentist accused of fondling the breasts of 27 female patients is trying to keep his dental license by arguing that chest massages are an appropriate procedure in certain cases. Mark Anderson's lawyer says dental journals discuss the need to massage the pectoral muscles to treat a common jaw problem.
Police say Anderson said during recorded phone calls that he routinely massaged patients' chests to treat temporo-mandibular joint disorder, or TMJ, which causes neck and head pain.
Attorney Robert Zaro told administrative law judge Jonathan Lew at a hearing Thursday that he should let Anderson keep his dental license while disciplinary appeals proceed. Anderson would be supervised by two assistants and would no longer do the chest rubs, Zaro said.

Zaro said Anderson, 48, of Woodland, needs to keep seeing patients so he can feed his seven children and pay for his defense.

The judge made no immediate decision.
Lew suspended Anderson's dental license last month. He was charged with two misdemeanor counts of battery and sexual battery. Yolo County prosecutors are investigating complaints from more than two dozen women who say they also were groped in the examining chair in the last five years.
 
When I was in Optometry school, I remember hearing of an OD doing breast exams to check for "water" content so he could fit the right contact.:eek:
 
I'm certain a few years ago an OD lost his license after having female patients remove their shirts to do a check for scoliosis. Some connection between the spine and the eyes.
I'll bet these guys don't use scribes or have the previously discussed cameras in the exam rooms unless the videos are for personal use only.
Like a family, every profession has a few.
 
Yes I recall that story too.
 
I'll have to ask my Dentist friend if he does Breast Rubs on his pts for TMJ. Maybe it will decrease IOP pressures for GLC pts!lol pupils constrict and open up the angles and increase outflow! lawsuit coming
 
C. Gregory Vickers said:
I'm certain a few years ago an OD lost his license after having female patients remove their shirts to do a check for scoliosis. Some connection between the spine and the eyes.
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As I recall, he was some kind of expert in back trouble in addition to being an OD. He even gave talks on his technique. The patients he had disrobe were half male and half female. What got him into trouble was that all the female patients were smoking hot.

On a related topic, an OMD friend of mine once had a female patient who, upon being told the doctor would be in shortly, took off all her clothes and was sitting in the chair naked waiting to be examined when he entered the room.
 
Disrobing patients!

Mike Alvarez said:
As I recall, he was some kind of expert in back trouble in addition to being an OD. He even gave talks on his technique. The patients he had disrobe were half male and half female. What got him into trouble was that all the female patients were smoking hot.

On a related topic, an OMD friend of mine once had a female patient who, upon being told the doctor would be in shortly, took off all her clothes and was sitting in the chair naked waiting to be examined when he entered the room.
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Mike,

You just rang a bell inside my head. Some 40 plus years ago while I was still very green, I was told by the receptionist to do an eye exam in room #1.

As I was walking into the room, a stunning young blonde bombshell was hastily disrobing. I went flying out of the room to report this incidence to our receptionist.

The receptionist did not believe me so upon my urging - she walked into the room to a stark raving nude patient who was fully clothed a few minutes ago. She stared at the patient and inquired: "What are you doing?"

The patient calmly replied: "I was getting ready for the new young doctor." She was told to put her clothes back on and old Dr. George was sent in to do the exam while I hung around in the back.

Dr. George never let me forget about that experience as he would often tease me that the patient kept 'flashing him' and he rather enjoyed it. She told Dr. George that the other O.D. gave her chest massages with each eye exam. Could she have been this other guys former patient? Dr. George said that the other guy was a colleague of his and that he had to quickly get out of town and ended up somewhere in the desert in Arizona.
 
In 1992, there was an OD in Iowa that was performing scoliosis exams for his younger patients. There is an enormous amount of research on the connection between strabismus and scoliosis. Anyway, the doctor always had the parents and his staff in the room when this happened. One day he was performing an exam and the parents needed to leave the room and the staff needed to leave the room. The surprised parents came back and were alittle startled by the exam.

Although there were no concerns from either the parent or the child, the doctor's license was suspended because he had used poor judgment
in not making sure that the parents and staff were present.
 
Well you know there is a true connection between Crohn's Dz and Iritis, but you never hear of an inspecion of the brown eye. Makes one wonder.
 
Michael A. Langevin said:
Well you know there is a true connection between Crohn's Dz and Iritis, but you never hear of an inspecion of the brown eye. Makes one wonder.
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Best laugh of the day. Thanks!:D You VT guys need to loosen up. Scoliosis exams in connection with strabismus, please. Why in the hell would an OD perform that kind of exam? I just don't get it.

And on a side note, I've never had a female patient pull the strip thing, at least in the exam room, and IM PISSED.
 
The obvious answer...

C. Gregory Vickers said:
Best laugh of the day. Thanks!:D You VT guys need to loosen up. Scoliosis exams in connection with strabismus, please. Why in the hell would an OD perform that kind of exam? I just don't get it.

And on a side note, I've never had a female patient pull the strip thing, at least in the exam room, and IM PISSED.
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More interest in "huntin' and fishin" in your part of the country.
:rolleyes:
 
Paul Farkas said:
More interest in "huntin' and fishin" in your part of the country.
:rolleyes:
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and your point is?:D Sat in the snow all day Saturday and didn't see a deer. I didn't mind though. Just nice to be out there. And if I had shot one, I would have had to drag it out. Too much work for us lazy types.
 
Sitting in the snow sounds like fun but...

C. Gregory Vickers said:
and your point is?:D Sat in the snow all day Saturday and didn't see a deer. I didn't mind though. Just nice to be out there. And if I had shot one, I would have had to drag it out. Too much work for us lazy types.
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Doesn't it have a chilling effect on some body parts? :eek:

That proves the point!;)
 
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In optometry school I had a patient take off her shirt when I said I was going to take BP. The 2nd year student who was observing me(a male) almost died. I just took her BP and asked her to put her shirt back on like it was completely normal. The 2nd year couldn't believe how cool I played it. It was better than when I leaned another patient back to do BIO and her wig fell off. It is hard to act cool when that happens.
 
Removing their arms out of shirts and exposing less than shaved arm pits, strange bras, and various tattoos on or around the breasts for BP is not new. That was almost an everyday occurrence at ICO. I had almost forgot that, or maybe it was a mental block that you helped me through. Thanks:confused:
 
Paul Farkas said:
Doesn't it have a chilling effect on some body parts? :eek:

That proves the point!;)
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I work so I can shop at Gander Mountain. The snow has no impact on a man willing to spend whatever it takes to be comfortable and stylish while avoiding his spouse and other responsibilities.
 
Breast rub.......?????

I couldnot stop laughing reading all these stuffs..............ha ha hahaha ha ha ha!!!!!!
 
The comedians could use a vacation!

Sanjay Marasini said:
I couldnot stop laughing reading all these stuffs..............ha ha hahaha ha ha ha!!!!!!
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If this is great humor in Nepal how about sponsoring a road show?

I'm certain our comics would be pleased to have an appreciative in person audience.;)
 
Haven't had the naked ladies, but in retrospect, I have had a couple of gorgeous college coeds ask if there was "any other way they could pay for their contacts", with a lot of eye contact and flirty voices.

I said, "sure, we offer CareCredit."

Damn.
 
Paul Farkas said:
If this is great humor in Nepal how about sponsoring a road show?

I'm certain our comics would be pleased to have an appreciative in person audience.;)
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What's your point, Paul? Other than an oblique ad hominem attack?

Was your post necessary? :cool: :rolleyes: :cool:
 
I'm entitled to an opinion...

Merrill Bowan said:
What's your point, Paul? Other than an oblique ad hominem attack?

Was your post necessary? :cool: :rolleyes: :cool:
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Are most of these comments are that funny. If Sanjay couldn't stop laughing, my observation indicated that this must great humor in Nepal.

I did not attack him or the citizens of Nepal. Some of our members who sometimes write without thinking, were given a sarcastic gentle chide.:rolleyes:

But an attack? Give me a break!:cool:

I guess Jackie Mason ( who?) might not be such a hit in Nepal.:eek:
 
Paul Farkas said:
Are most of these comments are that funny. If Sanjay couldn't stop laughing, my observation indicated that this must great humor in Nepal.

I did not attack him or the citizens of Nepal....
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....no, it was your posture--you were just looking down your nose the whole time....and now you defend it. :rolleyes:

Nepal is cool! (Pun intended!*) :D -- That's humor...... ;)

(*For the geographically challenged, Nepal is the land of the Him-ALL-yas)
 
Merrill Bowan said:
....no, it was your posture--you were just looking down your nose the whole time....and now you defend it. :rolleyes:

Nepal is cool! (Pun intended!*) :D -- That's humor...... ;)

(*For the geographically challenged, Nepal is the land of the Him-ALL-yas)
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Humor is how you take it, Dr. Bowan! As we so politically correct that an quick observation has to be taken as its worst possible connotation? :rolleyes:

As for Paul looking down his nose... you do that all the time to docs who don't subscribe to your view of BV and VT.

Pot calling the kettle black, I think.
 
Wasn't it Jackie Mason that said, "For instance, take my wife, please." :eek:

Or was it Rodney Daingerfield, I can't remember?
 
Brad Kardatzke said:
Wasn't it Jackie Mason that said, "For instance, take my wife, please." :eek:

Or was it Rodney Daingerfield, I can't remember?
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Jackie Mason is a former Rabbi with a Brooklyn Yiddish- American accent. He makes fun of Jews and Gentiles. :eek:

The nice people in Nepal...not so much!;)
 
I astutely try not to, I'm trying to catch flies, after all...

jfmartinod said:
...As for Paul looking down his nose... you do that all the time to docs who don't subscribe to your view of BV and VT.

Pot calling the kettle black, I think.
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...but I may have slipped. Forgive me. I attack schools curricula and clinical training fer shure, but I try to avoid denigrating the young docs -- they're only reflecting their educational training, after all. How are nouveaux (sp?) OD's supposed to know any different? ;) :D ;)
 
It was Henny Youngman for "Take my wife, please."

Dangerfield for "I get no respect"

Dr. Farkas is correct for Jackie Mason. He has a terrible thin fro. 1970's
 
Not a debate for a change...

Sanjay Marasini said:
I am confused!What the debate is about!!!
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Once in a while our ODwire.org members stop beating each other up and have some fun. This was one of those times.
 
1000+ visits!

When I noticed that this post....with it's provocative title....had so many visits, I couldn't help but view it. As was previously said, every profession has some who go off the deep end, or jump out of a plane convinced they can fly.

We all have our experiences with female patients' disrobing. Mine occurred when a lovely teenage girl was taking out her contact lens in the lab, and it fell onto the carpet (a blue lens on a blue carpet, of course). We looked for it in vain, and finally she and her mother went back into the exam room thinking it might have fallen out there, while I continued to pour through the carpet. Finally I went back to the exam room to help them search, and as I opened the door, she was just peeling off her sweater. I saw the lens drop, said "there it is", picked up the lens, walked out and closed the door. (The family remained patients for many years.)
 
Stephanie Looi said:
. I was wearing a dress, and in the kid's screaming and tantruming, he put his hand down the front of my dress and pull my bra off! I then had to grab it off him, then walk out with it (in front of his mum), into another consult room to put it back on!

steff
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Oh I bet that was one proud papa.:D When you left the room, they did a little father-son fist pump.
 
That breast fondling thing.....!

I recall a "disciplinary action" report of an OD in CA that would insist that he had to squeeze young girls nipples after instilling dilation gtt's to get a good dilation. I can well imagine what was dilating. I love these lateral thinkers, why am I cursed with this narrow minded, ethical, professional behavior? Darn :confused:

Ted Vorster OD

PS I think OD's should push for the use of nitrous oxide to diagnose the effects of exophoric apnea in silicone sensitive post-enhancements!
 
Stephanie Looi said:
Oh, and whilst I was a student, working as a tech for an OMD, I was dilating a 1 year old with his dad in the room, and mum sitting outside. I was wearing a dress, and in the kid's screaming and tantruming, he put his hand down the front of my dress and pull<ed> my bra off! I then had to grab it off him, then walk out with it (in front of his mum), into another consult room to put it back on!

steff
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I would have paid good money to learn how to do that when I was young and single!!!!
 
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